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		<description><![CDATA[written by Cameron Jackson cameronjacks@gmail.com Wise people do not go around saying that they are wise. Judge Sotomayor has known for 10+ years that she might be considered for nomination to the Supreme Court. In her remarks she refers to herself as the &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; who she believes will make a better decision than a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_1592" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 250px"><img src="http://freedomok.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/3721432279_c2ea3104f3_m.jpg" alt="3721432279 c2ea3104f3 m A wise Latina (Sotomayor) will make a better decision???  www.freedomOK.net/wordpress" title="3721432279_c2ea3104f3_m" width="240" height="160" class="size-full wp-image-1592" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Judge Soyomayor </p></div><br />
 written by Cameron Jackson   cameronjacks@gmail.com</p>
<p>Wise people do not go around saying that they are wise.  Judge Sotomayor has known for 10+ years that she might be considered for nomination to  the Supreme Court.  In her remarks she refers  to herself as the &#8220;wise Latina&#8221;  who she believes will make a better decision than a white male. </p>
<p>For Sotomayor to  hold herself   out as wise is not a  wise decision.   And to do so by connecting her  wisdom to her racial background  is dumb.  That she made the &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; remarks  in a number of speeches  over a 4-5 year period is idiotic.  It  might even be viewed as a moronic  decision  considering that she knew she was on the list for possible nomination.   </p>
<p>People we now call mentally retarded used to be called dumb, idiot or a   moron.  Those were commonly employed educational terms to describe students with low levels of functional intelligence.   </p>
<p><strong> For Judge Sotomayor to repeatedly say she is a &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; who will make better decisions because of  her race/gender/rich experience shows  a  questionable  level of functional intelligence. She may test smart on an IQ test   &#8211;  we have no information  on that issue  &#8212; but per her &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; remarks   she can act in a dumb manner.  </p>
<p>Getting a possibly dumb Latina on the bench may be exactly what President Obama wants.  For Obama,  it is all about leveling the playing field so everyone  gets equality &#8212; except for Obama and close supporters.  </p>
<p>After all,  functionally dumb people should have an equal chance as a smart person to be on the Supreme Court.  That is Obama&#8217;s thinking it appears.   President  Obama can just have  Sotomayor over for social gatherings so  that she learns how he wants her to vote on certain issues.  </p>
<p>So how &#8220;dumb&#8221; is Obama?  Not that dumb.  </p>
<p></strong><br />
Asked questions  during the nomination process about her &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; remarks, Sotomayor  has tried to spin it differently.   Do you think she succeeded? <strong>Or is her nose growing longer and longer? </strong>  </p>
<p>&#8220;Pat Leahy opened the questioning of Judge Sonia Sotomayor by asking her some softball questions about her controversial speeches and decisions. In response,<strong> Sotomayor&#8217;s characterization of her &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; speech was strikingly disingenuous:<br />
</strong><br />
I want to state up front, unequivocally and without doubt, I do not believe that any ethnic, racial or gender group has an advantage in sound judging. I do believe that every person has an equal opportunity to be a good and wise judge regardless of their background or life experiences. </p>
<p>What &#8212; the words that I use, I used <strong>agreeing </strong>with the sentiment that Justice Sandra Day O&#8217;Connor was attempting to convey. I understood that sentiment to be what I just spoke about, which is that both men and women were equally capable of being wise and fair judges.</p>
<p>That has to be what she meant, because judges disagree about legal outcomes all of the time &#8212; or I shouldn&#8217;t say all of the time, at least in close cases they do. Justices on the Supreme Court come to different conclusions. It can&#8217;t mean that one of them is unwise, despite the fact that some people think that.</p>
<p>So her literal words couldn&#8217;t have meant what they said. She had to have meant that she was talking about the equal value of the capacity to be fair and impartial.<br />
<strong><br />
Sotomayor employs a rhetorical dodge</strong> by focusing on how she interpreted Justice O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s famous statement that &#8220;a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases.&#8221; She says that O&#8217;Connor couldn&#8217;t have meant that the the wise man and the wise woman will reach the same decision in every case, since judges often disagree. Rather, she interpreted O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s statement to mean that men and women have an equal capacity to reach wise judgments.</p>
<p>Of course that&#8217;s correct: O&#8217;Connor was saying that men and women shouldn&#8217;t reach different decisions because of their genders. <strong>But here is where Sotomayor hides the ball. Having created a diversion by talking about what O&#8217;Connor meant, she slipped in this key statement: &#8220;the words that I use, I used agreeing with the sentiment that Justice Sandra Day O&#8217;Connor was attempting to convey.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>That statement is a falsehood. Sotomayor&#8217;s whole point in quoting Justice O&#8217;Connor was to disagree with, or at least express reservations about, O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s view that the judge&#8217;s gender shouldn&#8217;t affect the outcome of a case. Here is the passage from Sotomayor&#8217;s speech:<br />
</strong><br />
Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O&#8217;Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O&#8217;Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that <strong>a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn&#8217;t lived that life. </strong><br />
Thus, Sotomayor&#8217;s characterization of the context of her &#8220;wise Latina&#8221; remark is the opposite of the truth. She wasn&#8217;t &#8220;agreeing with the sentiment that Justice O&#8217;Connor was attempting to convey,&#8221; as she told Senator Leahy. Rather, she staked out a position in opposition to O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s. In her speech she expressly disagreed with O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s view, as Sotomayor put it, &#8220;that both men and women were equally capable of being wise and fair judges.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been on the fence as to whether Senators should vote to confirm Sonia Sotomayor, but this rather breathtaking dishonesty provides strong grounds to vote against her confirmation.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Later in the proceedings, Sotomayor couldn&#8217;t resist fudging the facts once again:</p>
<p>SOTOMAYOR: &#8230;I was talking about the value that life experiences have, in the words I used, to the process of judging. And that is the context in which I understood the speech to be doing.<br />
The words I chose, taking the rhetorical flourish [i.e., "wise Latina"], it was a bad idea. I do understand that there are some who have read this differently, and I understand why they might have concern.</p>
<p>But I have repeated &#8212; more than once &#8212; and I will repeat throughout, if you look at my history on the bench, you will know that I do not believe that any ethnic, gender or race group has an advantage in sound judging. You noted that my speech actually said that.<br />
And I also believe that every person, regardless of their background and life experiences, can be good and wise judges.</p>
<p>LEAHY: In fact, if I might&#8230;</p>
<p>KYL: Excuse me. Just for the record, I don&#8217;t think it was your speech that said that, but that&#8217;s what you said in response to Senator Sessions&#8217; question this morning.</p>
<p>Indeed, Sotomayor said no such thing in her speech; she said the exact opposite</p>
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